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		<title>By: Ray Keefe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Gavin,

great information. It often isn&#039;t obvious that something like this can be a problem. So good to know.

In our business of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.successful.com.au/blog/2009/10/15/electronics-design-and-embedded-software-capability/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Electronics Design and Embedded Software Development&lt;/a&gt; there can be similar types of problems where you can&#039;t see the issue but it can be fatal.  A few of examples come to mind.

Thermal management
If you test things at room temperature then they might get hot but not too hot, especially if you only test for a few minutes. But in the real world the product can be turned on in a hot room for many hours and the final temperature can be too hot and the product fails. And for semiconductors, the product life statistically halves for every 10 degrees rise in temeprature so it might past an initial test but if you don&#039;t calculate the MTBF, Mean Time Before Failure, you can still end up with a warranty liability.

EMC
Also known as Electromagnetic Compatibility. There are 2 separate potential disasters here. You product might misoperate in the presence of a radio device like a mobile phone, and you product might be too radio noisy and either fail EMC tests leading to a recall, and/or cause problems for other equipment. Avoiding these problems requires experience in electronics design and you want to make sure you are only working with electronics designers who understand these problems.

Load Testing
This can apply to both software and hardware, but is less often done with software and so more often a problem. One big issue with multitasking is that the tasks are run sequentially in loops and either share control cooperatively or in a time sliced environment. So if a lot of things have to happen at the same time, then the microcontroller might not be able to keep up. Sometimes this is not an issue. Things slow down then come back to normal and proceed on OK. But sometimes it can lead to a full system crash. This can be caused by running out of memory, or specifically running out of a memory type known as stack, or not servicing an interrupt fast enough and missing a crucial event or piece of data.

I imaging in the world of cullinary excellence there are also many things to be careful of in order to delivery great food every time and never have a disaster.

Thanks again for the food poisoning information. I&#039;ll never look at a dented can of food the same way again.

Ray Keefe
Successful Endeavours Pty Ltd
Casey Business of the Year 2010
Industrial Electronics Future Award 2011
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.successful.com.au/awards.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Award Winning Electronics Design and Embedded Software Development&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Gavin,</p>
<p>great information. It often isn&#8217;t obvious that something like this can be a problem. So good to know.</p>
<p>In our business of <a href="http://www.successful.com.au/blog/2009/10/15/electronics-design-and-embedded-software-capability/" rel="nofollow">Electronics Design and Embedded Software Development</a> there can be similar types of problems where you can&#8217;t see the issue but it can be fatal.  A few of examples come to mind.</p>
<p>Thermal management<br />
If you test things at room temperature then they might get hot but not too hot, especially if you only test for a few minutes. But in the real world the product can be turned on in a hot room for many hours and the final temperature can be too hot and the product fails. And for semiconductors, the product life statistically halves for every 10 degrees rise in temeprature so it might past an initial test but if you don&#8217;t calculate the MTBF, Mean Time Before Failure, you can still end up with a warranty liability.</p>
<p>EMC<br />
Also known as Electromagnetic Compatibility. There are 2 separate potential disasters here. You product might misoperate in the presence of a radio device like a mobile phone, and you product might be too radio noisy and either fail EMC tests leading to a recall, and/or cause problems for other equipment. Avoiding these problems requires experience in electronics design and you want to make sure you are only working with electronics designers who understand these problems.</p>
<p>Load Testing<br />
This can apply to both software and hardware, but is less often done with software and so more often a problem. One big issue with multitasking is that the tasks are run sequentially in loops and either share control cooperatively or in a time sliced environment. So if a lot of things have to happen at the same time, then the microcontroller might not be able to keep up. Sometimes this is not an issue. Things slow down then come back to normal and proceed on OK. But sometimes it can lead to a full system crash. This can be caused by running out of memory, or specifically running out of a memory type known as stack, or not servicing an interrupt fast enough and missing a crucial event or piece of data.</p>
<p>I imaging in the world of cullinary excellence there are also many things to be careful of in order to delivery great food every time and never have a disaster.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the food poisoning information. I&#8217;ll never look at a dented can of food the same way again.</p>
<p>Ray Keefe<br />
Successful Endeavours Pty Ltd<br />
Casey Business of the Year 2010<br />
Industrial Electronics Future Award 2011<br />
<a href="http://www.successful.com.au/awards.html" rel="nofollow">Award Winning Electronics Design and Embedded Software Development</a></p>
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